I have been informed by two trusted JW sources that 2 sisters at different conventions - one in England and one in Scotland - were refused entry to the arenas because they didn't have lapel badges!
Be prepared P.E. :)
Anyone else experienced this?
The Fall Guy
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I'll Be Walking Into The Convention Arena Today
by pale.emperor ini work in the city, the liverpool convention is this weekend.
what better way to spend my lunch hour than pop over to the liverpool echo arena and see my daughter.
im in jeans, tshirt, adidas tracksuit jacket and worldly beard.
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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders
by The Fall Guy inwatchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
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The Fall Guy
Watchtower November 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "Today, a Christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover. (1st lie!) Why is this so important? First, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from Jehovah, (2nd lie!) as outlined in his Word. (Jas. 5:14-16) (3rd lie) Second,...." (Let's quickly move on now brothers & sisters, because these 3 "truths" have been satisfactorily answered from the paragraph)
The perverting of the James scriptures by the "faithful slave" - in order to reinforce the unscriptural and evil practice of "compulsory confession" - should be proof enough that the WTBTS serves no god except itself.
In the RNWT, James 5:14-16 says this, "Is there anyone sick among you? Let him call the elders of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, applying oil to him in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the sick one well, and Jehovah will raise him up. Also, if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. (by whom - the elders????????) Therefore, openly confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, so that you may be healed"
1) Sick among you - not a serious sinner.
2) "If he has committed sins" - the word 'serious' is missing!
3) "Openly confess your sins to one another". Are J.W. elders obliged to openly confess their serious sins to publishers in their congregations? If not, the org's mandatory confession is a one-way street!
The Greek word which many Bibles (not all) translate as 'sin', actually means any of the following; "faults, offences, trespasses, to err, be mistaken, miss the mark, or wander from the path."
Jesus' words at Matthew 18:15-17 command Christians how to deal with serious sins - between the people directly involved, and no confession to elders!
Witnesses - examine the gulf between what the org says and what is really true.
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When exactly did Jesus become king? The Insight Book tells us.
by The Fall Guy init-2 pp.
61-62 jesus christ - "they [1st century christians] recognized him as their lord........because of his kingly position and authority.
it was in the full regal as well as priestly authority represented by jesus’ name that his followers preached.....to the “name” of this divinely commissioned king, the lord jesus christ.
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w16 May p. 11 par. 12 - "What has been the record of Jehovah’s Witnesses? They are the only ones who preach that Jesus has been ruling as King since 1914."
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When exactly did Jesus become king? The Insight Book tells us.
by The Fall Guy init-2 pp.
61-62 jesus christ - "they [1st century christians] recognized him as their lord........because of his kingly position and authority.
it was in the full regal as well as priestly authority represented by jesus’ name that his followers preached.....to the “name” of this divinely commissioned king, the lord jesus christ.
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it-2 pp. 61-62 Jesus Christ - "They [1st century Christians] recognized him as their Lord........because of his kingly position and authority. It was in the full regal as well as priestly authority represented by Jesus’ name that his followers preached.....to the “name” of this divinely commissioned King, the Lord Jesus Christ."
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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness
by whatisthis12 ini have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.
when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.
we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.
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The Fall Guy
Firstly, welcome to the site.
This is like de ja vu!!!!!! (I am a fading ex-J.W. by the way)
I had a long term connection with a girl who was in exactly the same situation as yourself. She tried every way possible to get the love of her life to waken up to the fact that he was in a cult. After two years of anguish, she was dumped and he returned to the family home! She is now recovering from her lengthy mental trauma and ditching.
Unless your boyfriend can see - and admit it to you & himself - that he's been immersed into a cult, then do exactly as St. George of England advised, run like hell!
I hope your choice comes easily and quickly - whichever way it goes.
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Speaking of the 144,000...................
by The Fall Guy in...........why would an all-powerful christ, whom the bible describes as having been given "all authority", need 144,000 other king/priests as "helpers" to run his universal organization?
(matthew 28:18) .
1 corinthians 15:25 - "for he [not 144,000] must rule as king until god has put all enemies under his feet.".
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Unshacklethechains - "appears to indicate that Christians will rule as kings and priest along with Christ ON the earth."
The problem with the word 'kings' is that early translators have that particular option for the original Greek word. Subsequent translations - including RNWT - clung on to 'kings'. Other alternatives are, to reign as a governor, of the reign of Christians in the millennium, reign with authority.
I say "problem" because Psalm 45:16 prophesies that 'princes' will be appointed on the earth - not kings. Princes are sons & brothers.
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Speaking of the 144,000...................
by The Fall Guy in...........why would an all-powerful christ, whom the bible describes as having been given "all authority", need 144,000 other king/priests as "helpers" to run his universal organization?
(matthew 28:18) .
1 corinthians 15:25 - "for he [not 144,000] must rule as king until god has put all enemies under his feet.".
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The Fall Guy
Spot on DARKSPILVER. Diogenesister's various Bible translations shown that a priesthood will be serving upon the earth - not reigning as kings in heaven.
Even the WTBTS correctly translates the Greek in their Kingdom Interlinear Translation by stating that the priests will be UPON the earth, not OVER it. Wonder why they alter the wording in their RNWT?
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Speaking of the 144,000...................
by The Fall Guy in...........why would an all-powerful christ, whom the bible describes as having been given "all authority", need 144,000 other king/priests as "helpers" to run his universal organization?
(matthew 28:18) .
1 corinthians 15:25 - "for he [not 144,000] must rule as king until god has put all enemies under his feet.".
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...........why would an all-powerful Christ, whom the Bible describes as having been given "all authority", need 144,000 other king/priests as "helpers" to run his universal organization? (Matthew 28:18)
1 Corinthians 15:25 - "For he [not 144,000] must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet."
Sorry, I forgot!! Those 144,000 Melchizedek-types will be able to empathise with all of their weak "subjects" on earth.
hp chap. 16 p. 158 par. 24 - "Also, their having been humans will enable them to understand and sympathize with us. They know what it means to be tired, worried, discouraged. They know the effort needed to become more patient, kind and merciful. And some of them were women; they understand the feelings and special needs of women on earth."
So much for the paradise earth - if we need to rely on Tight Pants Tony et al to empathise & comfort us. Rein check.
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Why is the "faithful slave" not declaring the COMPLETE kingdom message?
by The Fall Guy inw16 january p. 26 par.
15 - "during the last days, jehovah has continued to select those who will make up the 144,000. if he chooses to wait until late into that period to select some for that privilege, who are we to question his wisdom?
during the past 80 years, thanks to the "slave's" direction, j.w.
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w16 January p. 26 par. 15 - "During the last days, Jehovah has continued to select those who will make up the 144,000. If he chooses to wait until late into that period to select some for that privilege, who are we to question his wisdom?"
During the past 80 years, thanks to the "slave's" direction, J.W.'s have never preached the complete good news to people of all the nations, namely, that they can have the hope of living on a paradise earth forever, or they could become king/priests in heaven. How could inspired men fail to proclaim such a crucial Bible teaching?
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Hey "faithful slave," when did Jesus become king?
by The Fall Guy inw78 3/1 p. 18 par.
15 - "when was god’s son made a king-priest like melchizedek?
this was 40 days after his resurrection from the dead, [33 c.e.
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w78 3/1 p. 18 par. 15 - "When was God’s Son made a King-Priest like Melchizedek? This was 40 days after his resurrection from the dead, [33 C.E.] when he ascended to heaven."
w13 7/15 p. 6 par. 11 - "In the mid-1990’s,.............It was noted that Jesus became King of God’s Kingdom in 1914."
w12 8/1 p. 17 When Did Jesus Become King? - "Events since 1914 confirm that Jesus became King in that year."
Just curious, in view of the slight discrepancy in your "food at the proper time."